1 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:06,140 foreign 2 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:09,780 [Music] 3 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:12,840 they were complex narratives of being 4 00:00:19,510 --> 00:00:15,719 taken by alien beings into UFOs on beams 5 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:22,550 the Air Force is trying to cover up with 6 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:32,749 from my own point of view I'm going to 7 00:00:37,069 --> 00:00:35,280 be very disappointed if UFOs turn out to 8 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:37,079 be nothing more of them visit us from 9 00:00:41,709 --> 00:00:38,340 another planet because I think there 10 00:00:46,130 --> 00:00:44,330 thank you 11 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:46,140 I'm not telling you the United States 12 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:05,450 [Music] 13 00:01:10,130 --> 00:01:07,969 welcome back to the channel guys thank 14 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:10,140 you so much to everyone that's here in 15 00:01:13,969 --> 00:01:12,180 the live chat I really appreciate it 16 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:13,979 this is going to be an interesting 17 00:01:19,490 --> 00:01:15,960 conversation as it always is with my 18 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:19,500 guest uh today so Matt Ford is uh 19 00:01:24,050 --> 00:01:22,259 actually joining us from he's out of 20 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:24,060 town traveling so this will be a bit of 21 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:26,700 a shorter interview than normal so we'll 22 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:29,520 be looking at sort of 30 to 45 minutes 23 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:30,960 um I just really appreciate Matt being 24 00:01:34,429 --> 00:01:32,280 able to join us 25 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,439 so um as always guys if you have any 26 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:35,759 questions that you'd like me to ask 27 00:01:39,890 --> 00:01:37,439 during the the conversation please pop 28 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:39,900 them in capital letters it helps me uh 29 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:42,840 sort of see them better and yeah please 30 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:44,640 keep the the chat cool calm and 31 00:01:49,550 --> 00:01:47,340 collected and respectful 32 00:01:51,770 --> 00:01:49,560 and it'll be great it'll go smoothly so 33 00:01:53,690 --> 00:01:51,780 let's not waste any more time uh let's 34 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:53,700 welcome back my good friend 35 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:56,880 Matt Ford Jenny how are you man I'm good 36 00:02:01,130 --> 00:01:59,040 man how are you I'm very well I'm coming 37 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:01,140 uh to you from an undisclosed location 38 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:04,640 so I can't tell you where I'm at 39 00:02:10,850 --> 00:02:08,000 let's get them all talking 40 00:02:12,650 --> 00:02:10,860 but no I I do appreciate you joining me 41 00:02:14,750 --> 00:02:12,660 it's always always a pleasure to chat 42 00:02:17,210 --> 00:02:14,760 with you man likewise yeah I'm always 43 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,220 always happy uh as I so I think I told 44 00:02:20,990 --> 00:02:19,440 everybody a bajillion times you were I 45 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:21,000 think or actually I don't think I know 46 00:02:25,610 --> 00:02:23,040 you were the very first uh interview 47 00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:25,620 that I ever did on this topic uh when 48 00:02:29,210 --> 00:02:27,239 you came on the good trouble show and I 49 00:02:31,369 --> 00:02:29,220 would I have to tell you I was I was so 50 00:02:34,670 --> 00:02:31,379 freaking nervous I was like oh my God I 51 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,680 hope I don't uh F this up so uh uh 52 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,200 anyway yeah man so it's uh so good uh to 53 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:40,560 come back on with this topic it is such 54 00:02:46,369 --> 00:02:43,920 a team effort and that's why I I love 55 00:02:50,449 --> 00:02:46,379 the collaboration and supporting of each 56 00:02:52,970 --> 00:02:50,459 other's uh podcasts and and uh YouTube 57 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:52,980 shows and whatnot and and the more the 58 00:02:57,050 --> 00:02:55,500 more quality content like uh there is 59 00:02:59,210 --> 00:02:57,060 with your show that's out there and the 60 00:03:01,729 --> 00:02:59,220 more people that are not exposed or 61 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:01,739 tracked the subject it's it's it's it's 62 00:03:07,009 --> 00:03:04,680 great for getting the word out on what's 63 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:07,019 going on yeah I couldn't agree more and 64 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:08,940 and you mentioned yeah was great to be 65 00:03:13,490 --> 00:03:10,920 be the first guest on your on your show 66 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,500 and to have been on since then but you 67 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:15,599 know the caliber of guest has certainly 68 00:03:19,369 --> 00:03:17,340 increased since since you spoke with me 69 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:19,379 that first time and you know you've had 70 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:21,599 recently some absolutely Stellar 71 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:23,480 interviews so I'd just like to sort of 72 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:26,040 reflect on some of those first of all if 73 00:03:31,070 --> 00:03:28,260 you don't mind okay of course starting 74 00:03:33,229 --> 00:03:31,080 off with your interview with uh Senator 75 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:33,239 Kirsten gillibrand which you know to 76 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,159 have a a senator on a UAP podcast is 77 00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:40,799 unheard of and you know I think it says 78 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:42,360 a lot about the seriousness of it as 79 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:44,700 well so did you have any kind of um 80 00:03:50,089 --> 00:03:48,420 major issues arranging the interview and 81 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:50,099 putting it all together was it was it a 82 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:51,420 lot of work 83 00:03:58,369 --> 00:03:55,440 took quite a long time you know what 84 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:58,379 most people don't know uh is that you 85 00:04:03,110 --> 00:03:59,760 know we also have an organization where 86 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:03,120 we we uh do political messaging for 87 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:06,180 Democrats and uh and that we started 88 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:09,780 doing that in in 20 uh during the 2020 89 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:13,080 election cycle so it was uh being 90 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:14,760 involved with that and I think we were 91 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:16,680 probably like the fourth largest media 92 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:19,680 producer uh especially on Twitter so 93 00:04:25,610 --> 00:04:23,220 with that that opened up a a lot of 94 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:25,620 doors uh politically 95 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:27,540 um sort of being involved in political 96 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:31,320 influencer groups and uh so this was 97 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:33,060 something that had been in discussion 98 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:36,419 for a very long time and I think a lot 99 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:37,620 of it was 100 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,500 just for them finding the right when 101 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:42,720 they felt was the sort of right time for 102 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:44,400 her to you know come and talk about it 103 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:45,960 and 104 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:47,780 um but yeah it was it was great you know 105 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:50,759 this this country well you know the 106 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:52,800 world really owes a huge debt of 107 00:04:56,689 --> 00:04:55,139 gratitude to her herself and her her 108 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:56,699 staff and what they've done on this 109 00:05:00,350 --> 00:04:58,560 particular topic 110 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:00,360 um I know a lot of the debunkers will 111 00:05:05,330 --> 00:05:03,360 say ah you know this I think uh 112 00:05:07,490 --> 00:05:05,340 um you know one one gentleman we all 113 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:07,500 know said something that it was along 114 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:10,560 the lines that uh her staff got snowed 115 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:12,900 under or uh oh what's the word you know 116 00:05:18,409 --> 00:05:15,360 fooled into thinking that that this uh 117 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:18,419 UFO thing was all hype and or it got 118 00:05:22,909 --> 00:05:21,060 them convinced and then they convinced 119 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,919 the senator and these staffers didn't 120 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,960 know what they were doing and you know I 121 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:27,600 I the thing that these these staffers 122 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:28,560 they 123 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:48,000 to 124 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:54,180 sending them on some Wild Goose goose 125 00:05:59,390 --> 00:05:56,400 chase uh these staffers are very 126 00:06:02,510 --> 00:05:59,400 involved they're very very smart 127 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:02,520 um uh in particular Senator gillibrand's 128 00:06:06,890 --> 00:06:04,440 staff they're they're amazing people and 129 00:06:09,170 --> 00:06:06,900 they're engaged and and they're doing 130 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:09,180 what what um they're doing you know 131 00:06:12,590 --> 00:06:10,860 really good things on the for the 132 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:12,600 country and the Really the world on this 133 00:06:16,189 --> 00:06:14,280 particular topic 134 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:16,199 yeah absolutely I mean I thought the 135 00:06:18,590 --> 00:06:17,639 interview was great and I know there was 136 00:06:21,409 --> 00:06:18,600 some 137 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:21,419 uh negativity let's say shared about 138 00:06:25,370 --> 00:06:23,160 maybe sort of a certain line of 139 00:06:26,749 --> 00:06:25,380 questioning and and stuff is there 140 00:06:27,710 --> 00:06:26,759 anything you can kind of say towards 141 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:27,720 that 142 00:06:32,930 --> 00:06:30,479 yeah so 143 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:32,940 all of these politicians you know with 144 00:06:37,850 --> 00:06:35,639 the exception of uh Congressman Tim 145 00:06:39,890 --> 00:06:37,860 Burchette who we've tried to get on our 146 00:06:42,409 --> 00:06:39,900 show uh 147 00:06:46,249 --> 00:06:42,419 they have to be very careful about how 148 00:06:48,650 --> 00:06:46,259 they talk about this and in particular 149 00:06:50,689 --> 00:06:48,660 um in my personal opinion Senator 150 00:06:52,969 --> 00:06:50,699 gillibrand is not going to do something 151 00:06:56,990 --> 00:06:52,979 that's going to get in front of the 152 00:06:59,210 --> 00:06:57,000 White House or or you know it's these 153 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:59,220 are all it's it's a sticky it's a sticky 154 00:07:02,809 --> 00:07:00,840 subject I mean if you think about it if 155 00:07:06,110 --> 00:07:02,819 you're the U.S government and you're 156 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:06,120 aware that for 80 years the government 157 00:07:10,670 --> 00:07:08,880 has been lying to the American public 158 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:10,680 you have to you have to sit in their 159 00:07:16,930 --> 00:07:13,860 shoes and go okay how are we going to 160 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:16,940 unwind this ball of yarn and not do 161 00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:19,919 damage to 162 00:07:27,650 --> 00:07:24,060 in government and of course we all know 163 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:27,660 that that that is uh has uh is an issue 164 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:30,479 right now anyway so it's it's it's a 165 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:33,780 really complex issue in my opinion so 166 00:07:37,969 --> 00:07:35,580 yeah so you know so for instance going 167 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:37,979 back to our interview so what you know 168 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:40,560 what I did is I gave them a heads up of 169 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:44,160 of General topics I wanted to talk about 170 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:47,759 that I felt confident that she would be 171 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:51,900 able to answer so yeah saying hey do you 172 00:07:56,689 --> 00:07:54,300 think there's a crashed off-world 173 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:56,699 vehicle in Area 51 she's not going to 174 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:01,520 answer that so the point was to get as 175 00:08:08,809 --> 00:08:05,400 covers much of the topic that I I was 176 00:08:11,570 --> 00:08:08,819 confident she could discuss and 177 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:11,580 um yeah so it it's I think it's like 178 00:08:14,809 --> 00:08:12,960 with anything and of course everybody 179 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:14,819 wants to know everything and they want 180 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,599 to know it now and and uh uh and if they 181 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:21,120 if they you know if they're disappointed 182 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,639 in in what somebody answers they're 183 00:08:28,909 --> 00:08:25,440 gonna you know go rage tweet on Twitter 184 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:28,919 and and all of that and and uh it's uh 185 00:08:33,949 --> 00:08:31,259 you know there are questions I wanted to 186 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:33,959 answer excuse me I wanted to ask but I 187 00:08:39,709 --> 00:08:37,260 knew it just wasn't going to happen so 188 00:08:41,149 --> 00:08:39,719 we all want to we all wanna we all want 189 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:41,159 the keys to the kingdom and want to know 190 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:42,899 everything right away and I'm certainly 191 00:08:49,490 --> 00:08:45,660 certainly one of them but uh our hope is 192 00:08:51,889 --> 00:08:49,500 that this will be there will be other 193 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:51,899 um appearances by her on our show yeah 194 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:56,040 we are huge huge fans and and her her 195 00:09:03,410 --> 00:08:59,519 staff they are they are fantastic and 196 00:09:05,810 --> 00:09:03,420 they are well of well aware that 197 00:09:07,670 --> 00:09:05,820 something's going on I would say yeah 198 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:07,680 absolutely and it's good to build these 199 00:09:12,650 --> 00:09:10,140 relationships and not like Scupper them 200 00:09:14,210 --> 00:09:12,660 at the first chance you know and again 201 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:14,220 it was limit you were limited for time 202 00:09:18,650 --> 00:09:16,200 and it would have been you know awful to 203 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,660 just have a full interview of no comment 204 00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:20,880 or I can't answer that just say I 205 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:23,519 understand and yeah I know one criticism 206 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,760 that I saw somewhat uh was that you know 207 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:28,320 why didn't you ask follow-up questions 208 00:09:34,610 --> 00:09:31,860 so the risk you know everybody wants a 209 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:34,620 piece of the uh the Senators any Senator 210 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:36,300 or congressman's time you know they're 211 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:38,760 very very busy people with topics 212 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:42,959 outside of UAP right so the last thing 213 00:09:49,009 --> 00:09:46,500 you want to do is ask a question and 214 00:09:50,810 --> 00:09:49,019 then do one or two follow-ups and before 215 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:50,820 you know it your time's over and then 216 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:52,740 you know you haven't really covered it 217 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:55,980 so it was it was important that we 218 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:58,440 get through as much 219 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:01,920 it covers much ground as as we were able 220 00:10:06,130 --> 00:10:03,600 to in the allotted time that we had with 221 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,140 her yeah absolutely 222 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:08,880 yeah and you know and again it was you 223 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:10,380 know as you mentioned this was the first 224 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:14,640 time a United States Senator has come on 225 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:19,560 a it on any uh media program to discuss 226 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:23,100 UAP at length so 227 00:10:27,230 --> 00:10:25,260 um you know so that that I I think that 228 00:10:29,150 --> 00:10:27,240 was uh it was certainly a win for us but 229 00:10:32,509 --> 00:10:29,160 I think moreover it was a win for the 230 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:32,519 for the community and the 231 00:10:38,810 --> 00:10:36,060 when other people in politics see that 232 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:38,820 someone of her stature was willing to 233 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,160 come on and discuss this difficult topic 234 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:43,920 that hopefully will make it easier for 235 00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:46,620 other politicians to you know come to 236 00:10:49,490 --> 00:10:48,000 the same decision and realize you know 237 00:10:50,449 --> 00:10:49,500 what this is a good thing to come and 238 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:50,459 talk about 239 00:10:54,050 --> 00:10:52,440 yeah absolutely and she certainly isn't 240 00:10:56,329 --> 00:10:54,060 doesn't show any signs of slowing down 241 00:10:58,610 --> 00:10:56,339 either she's she's on the ball keeping a 242 00:11:01,730 --> 00:10:58,620 very close eye on on Arrow and and what 243 00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:01,740 doctor Patrick's doing and speaking of 244 00:11:06,590 --> 00:11:03,600 Arrow you know you've had a couple of 245 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:06,600 the uh whistleblowers I still don't like 246 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:09,720 using that word but uh both Mario woods 247 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:11,880 and Robert Salas you've spoken to so 248 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:14,100 let's just talk about the uh the 249 00:11:17,329 --> 00:11:15,660 conversation you had with Mario Woods 250 00:11:19,550 --> 00:11:17,339 are you able to just give us a first of 251 00:11:22,009 --> 00:11:19,560 all a brief overview of of what happened 252 00:11:23,449 --> 00:11:22,019 to him and and any kind of takeaways 253 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:23,459 from that conversation 254 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,940 sure yeah that his was uh you know one 255 00:11:31,329 --> 00:11:28,560 of our favorite interviews as well so 256 00:11:35,470 --> 00:11:31,339 Mario Woods was an above ground security 257 00:11:38,329 --> 00:11:35,480 uh police officer at um at a Minuteman 258 00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:38,339 nuclear ICBM base I'm blanking on on 259 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:41,160 which one he was stationed at uh and I 260 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:45,300 believe it was either 1977 or 1978 and 261 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,480 you know these guys so 262 00:11:51,769 --> 00:11:50,700 um the way these bases are laid out you 263 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:51,779 have what's called a launch control 264 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:55,440 center or LCC and down below 60 feet 265 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:00,000 below are two people in a capsule and 266 00:12:05,090 --> 00:12:02,040 they have under their control 10 267 00:12:06,590 --> 00:12:05,100 Minuteman ICBM intercontinental 268 00:12:09,949 --> 00:12:06,600 ballistic missiles nuclear tipped 269 00:12:13,090 --> 00:12:09,959 missiles uh so in the there's a shack at 270 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:13,100 the top of this uh you know above ground 271 00:12:20,210 --> 00:12:18,300 where the security force uh is uh 272 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:20,220 station I think it's like six people I 273 00:12:24,050 --> 00:12:21,540 believe 274 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:24,060 um and these are the people that would 275 00:12:29,870 --> 00:12:27,120 uh are are in charge of protecting the 276 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:29,880 LCC and then the launch facility or the 277 00:12:34,730 --> 00:12:32,100 uh where the where the missiles are so 278 00:12:38,449 --> 00:12:34,740 if if somebody's banging on a missile 279 00:12:40,370 --> 00:12:38,459 door they get deployed to go and and 280 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:40,380 figure out what the threat is and 281 00:12:48,590 --> 00:12:43,860 neutralize it if need be so uh so yeah 282 00:12:53,569 --> 00:12:48,600 so he was on um he was on on do Duty one 283 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:53,579 night and he saw he went outside and saw 284 00:12:57,889 --> 00:12:55,440 this light in the distance and at first 285 00:12:59,810 --> 00:12:57,899 he he thought it was a helicopter but 286 00:13:02,930 --> 00:12:59,820 then he noticed the light wasn't moving 287 00:13:05,030 --> 00:13:02,940 and it was just stationary and out where 288 00:13:06,410 --> 00:13:05,040 he was at there's literally nothing out 289 00:13:09,769 --> 00:13:06,420 there so it's not like you see city 290 00:13:14,810 --> 00:13:09,779 lights or or uh drones it was before 291 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:14,820 drones uh anyway so he the there are all 292 00:13:19,370 --> 00:13:16,560 these floodlights that surround the 293 00:13:21,889 --> 00:13:19,380 launch control centers um 294 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:21,899 so he goes in and he flips the switch 295 00:13:27,710 --> 00:13:24,480 several times I you know X number of 296 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:27,720 times and he walks outside and the 297 00:13:32,990 --> 00:13:30,120 object flashes the equal number of times 298 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:33,000 back I think he said he did it a a 299 00:13:38,990 --> 00:13:36,480 couple more times uh and he he had one 300 00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:39,000 of his fellow police officers come out 301 00:13:42,829 --> 00:13:41,279 and and look at the thing and the guy 302 00:13:45,949 --> 00:13:42,839 kind of like blew it off 303 00:13:49,069 --> 00:13:45,959 uh so if I recall correctly a couple 304 00:13:50,509 --> 00:13:49,079 hours later you know he around midnight 305 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,519 or so or something like that you know he 306 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:52,320 had been in after the thing I think the 307 00:13:55,850 --> 00:13:54,240 lady said went away or something like 308 00:13:58,190 --> 00:13:55,860 that so he goes in for a couple hours 309 00:14:00,769 --> 00:13:58,200 watches some TV and back in those days 310 00:14:03,530 --> 00:14:00,779 there was no cable or anything like that 311 00:14:05,870 --> 00:14:03,540 you only had three main channels and at 312 00:14:07,610 --> 00:14:05,880 midnight that's when program the 313 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:07,620 programming within you know they played 314 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:08,880 the national anthem and then it would 315 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:10,260 just be 316 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:14,639 um uh noise uh anyway he gets a uh his 317 00:14:19,730 --> 00:14:17,040 alert phone or whatever goes off 318 00:14:21,949 --> 00:14:19,740 from and this is connected uh down to 319 00:14:25,190 --> 00:14:21,959 the the two launch control officers and 320 00:14:28,009 --> 00:14:25,200 they they tell them that a that internal 321 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:28,019 and external intrusion alarms have gone 322 00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:31,320 off at one of the launch facilities so 323 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:33,540 you know so around these silos they're 324 00:14:38,750 --> 00:14:36,060 fenced off and there's an array of 325 00:14:41,389 --> 00:14:38,760 sensors that that warn that something 326 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:41,399 has gone on to the property you know and 327 00:14:45,490 --> 00:14:43,740 it's not that big of a footprint but 328 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:45,500 from what I understand things like 329 00:14:50,990 --> 00:14:48,060 jackrabbits or whatever can set this off 330 00:14:53,389 --> 00:14:51,000 so that's it was a somewhat common thing 331 00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:53,399 they would still have to go in and look 332 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:56,040 at what was causing the alarm but what 333 00:15:04,430 --> 00:15:00,480 what uh what also went off was a 334 00:15:07,069 --> 00:15:04,440 internal intrusion alarm so a series of 335 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:07,079 sensors within the within the missile 336 00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:09,420 silo itself that indicates that somebody 337 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:13,440 or something is walking around uh and 338 00:15:19,129 --> 00:15:15,959 that is that never happens from what he 339 00:15:20,990 --> 00:15:19,139 said so he was sent out to to him and 340 00:15:23,930 --> 00:15:21,000 his partner were sent out to go look at 341 00:15:25,610 --> 00:15:23,940 this this was considered one of the the 342 00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:25,620 most serious 343 00:15:31,009 --> 00:15:29,160 um alarms for anything anyone out there 344 00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:31,019 they drove out there um I think it was 345 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:32,220 like a five minute drive or something 346 00:15:36,050 --> 00:15:33,899 like that and they're picked up and they 347 00:15:39,050 --> 00:15:36,060 came out there and there was a large 348 00:15:41,389 --> 00:15:39,060 spherical uh I think it was red glowing 349 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:41,399 object right above the launch facility 350 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:43,199 that the Civil is like the size of a 351 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:44,120 Walmart 352 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:48,360 and uh following so his his partner was 353 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:51,060 just frozen in Terror and next thing he 354 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:53,880 knows he looks out to the left of 355 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:56,100 um at his driver's window and he sees 356 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:00,000 these three beings uh in approaching the 357 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:01,260 truck and then 358 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,260 he blacks out next thing he remembers 359 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:06,959 um he him and his partner are located 360 00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:09,540 about five miles away next to a dam 361 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:11,880 their truck had been completely moved 362 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:13,620 and 363 00:16:22,670 --> 00:16:19,740 said I'm gonna uh recommend Mario come 364 00:16:25,490 --> 00:16:22,680 on your show but it is one of the most 365 00:16:28,129 --> 00:16:25,500 compelling stories I have ever heard and 366 00:16:32,030 --> 00:16:28,139 when you listen to him talk 367 00:16:35,449 --> 00:16:32,040 um it is just I don't know how anyone 368 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:35,459 would disbelieve what what this guy says 369 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:36,839 and 370 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:39,180 the thing to keep in mind about a lot of 371 00:16:44,269 --> 00:16:40,320 these whistleblowers there's no 372 00:16:45,710 --> 00:16:44,279 incentive for them to come forward just 373 00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:45,720 um the amount of ridicule they open 374 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:48,839 themselves up to sure is really kind of 375 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:51,839 no yeah um uh so I don't want to spoil 376 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,220 the whole thing but I definitely 377 00:16:58,249 --> 00:16:55,440 recommend people check it out absolutely 378 00:16:59,870 --> 00:16:58,259 and he obviously he's spoken to to Arrow 379 00:17:02,090 --> 00:16:59,880 do you are you away did he speak 380 00:17:03,710 --> 00:17:02,100 directly with Sean Kirkpatrick and what 381 00:17:06,530 --> 00:17:03,720 was this kind of General takeaway from 382 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:06,540 the the interaction uh he did not speak 383 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:09,299 to Sean Kirkpatrick uh I can't say who 384 00:17:13,610 --> 00:17:12,480 he spoke to or spoke with Excuse me 385 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:13,620 um 386 00:17:20,350 --> 00:17:17,520 I think he I would definitely uh 387 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:20,360 characterize what he is 388 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:24,600 my impression of of his experience was 389 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:27,120 that it was not particularly that great 390 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:29,520 uh at the end of our interview he had 391 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,260 some pretty pointed words I don't want 392 00:17:35,090 --> 00:17:33,360 to put words in his mouth 393 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:35,100 um but you know this this guy he's an 394 00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:37,260 American Patriot and 395 00:17:45,370 --> 00:17:37,860 um 396 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:45,380 and I I I would say that overall the 397 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:49,880 the interactions that I've been privy to 398 00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:53,280 with with the arrow office by some of 399 00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:55,620 these whistleblowers it's not been good 400 00:18:02,750 --> 00:17:59,280 uh and I think the the statement by Dr 401 00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:02,760 Sean kirpatrick during the the Senate uh 402 00:18:07,730 --> 00:18:04,559 thing really 403 00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:07,740 deflated and had a net negative effect 404 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:09,960 on whistleblowers so you know if you 405 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,760 think about it so these guys like I said 406 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:13,440 they have no there's no incentive for 407 00:18:18,529 --> 00:18:14,880 them to go do this not like they're 408 00:18:20,930 --> 00:18:18,539 getting paid to to show up or or talk on 409 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:20,940 a or you know have a phone call with 410 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:24,000 these guys and for them to go through 411 00:18:28,990 --> 00:18:25,740 and 412 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:29,000 have their conduct have their interview 413 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:30,720 sort of 414 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:32,700 in a way be blown off by what 415 00:18:38,330 --> 00:18:36,299 Kirkpatrick uh seemed what he said about 416 00:18:40,210 --> 00:18:38,340 there's no credible evidence uh I don't 417 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:40,220 have the exact quote of anything 418 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:42,960 extraterrestrial yeah really deflated 419 00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:46,380 these guys and and I know that there are 420 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:48,059 some that 421 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:51,120 it's it's dissuaded them people that 422 00:18:56,029 --> 00:18:54,000 that have data to share it's dissuaded 423 00:18:58,010 --> 00:18:56,039 them from coming forward because I'm 424 00:18:59,570 --> 00:18:58,020 sure you know their in their shoes would 425 00:19:02,750 --> 00:18:59,580 be like well you know what's the point 426 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:02,760 yeah um I I 427 00:19:07,370 --> 00:19:04,860 um yeah there's one particular 428 00:19:11,570 --> 00:19:07,380 whistleblower that that I had a very 429 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,580 long uh debriefing with and and this 430 00:19:17,409 --> 00:19:13,440 whistleblower 431 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:17,419 um you know he's he just he he felt that 432 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:20,640 they weren't prepared they didn't ask 433 00:19:26,090 --> 00:19:23,880 questions to sort of verify you know 434 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:26,100 like well who is the base commander or 435 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:29,880 things like that and the sense from this 436 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:32,660 whistleblower was that 437 00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:36,240 that that they were just kind of going 438 00:19:41,090 --> 00:19:39,120 through the motions doing Gathering his 439 00:19:43,730 --> 00:19:41,100 testimony just because 440 00:19:45,049 --> 00:19:43,740 um you know it was they were required to 441 00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:45,059 there was just 442 00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:48,740 this person felt a general lack of of 443 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:51,179 genuine interest 444 00:19:54,409 --> 00:19:52,679 um and this person 445 00:19:57,049 --> 00:19:54,419 was ready to offer up more information 446 00:19:59,690 --> 00:19:57,059 and said you want to know about this and 447 00:20:02,150 --> 00:19:59,700 they would say you know now and then 448 00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:02,160 they would move on so 449 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,000 um 450 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:06,000 yeah this this whistleblower was it was 451 00:20:10,909 --> 00:20:08,220 not a a good 452 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:10,919 ex exp he didn't walk away from that 453 00:20:14,810 --> 00:20:12,660 feeling like it had been worth this time 454 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,820 I I would that's how I would my 455 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:16,799 impression of it would would be yeah 456 00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:18,299 that's quite disheartening you know and 457 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:20,280 it seems to be from various 458 00:20:22,850 --> 00:20:21,960 conversations I've had with people who 459 00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:22,860 have spoken to some of these 460 00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:24,299 whistleblowers it all kind of they're 461 00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:26,280 all painting the same or very similar 462 00:20:30,049 --> 00:20:28,200 kind of picture 463 00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:30,059 um well let's move on to your recent 464 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,620 conversation with Bob Salas now 465 00:20:36,650 --> 00:20:34,320 everybody knows Bob's story so we won't 466 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:36,660 spend too much or we won't go over that 467 00:20:41,690 --> 00:20:39,780 but I did want to um play the recording 468 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:41,700 because he actually recorded his 469 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:44,460 conversation with arrow and then he 470 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:46,260 shared this this short section with you 471 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,280 so 472 00:20:52,010 --> 00:20:50,400 let me just bring this up because 473 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:52,020 yeah I think for anyone that hasn't 474 00:20:58,669 --> 00:20:54,780 heard it it's certainly uh interesting 475 00:20:58,679 --> 00:21:03,049 there we go 476 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:06,110 right anyone in the live chat and if you 477 00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:07,740 have any issues with the sound please 478 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:09,539 let me know in the comments thank you 479 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:12,660 very very interesting here we go 480 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,080 uh can I ask will you be sending 481 00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:18,480 inquiries to the air force uh about the 482 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:24,169 I just heard of Kevin on this one 483 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:27,900 uh well like for example like which one 484 00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:30,299 well 485 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:34,380 uh whether or not uh they concur that 486 00:21:46,669 --> 00:21:36,900 both Echo and Oscar Flight launch 487 00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:49,010 it's already inquired with Air Force 488 00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:53,220 several things even less specific like 489 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:56,940 where is all the Youtube footage 490 00:22:01,370 --> 00:21:59,280 literally where'd that film go where is 491 00:22:03,649 --> 00:22:01,380 it stored was it ever digitized where 492 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:03,659 are my copies of it be I'm still trying 493 00:22:10,010 --> 00:22:05,480 to run down questions like that because 494 00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:10,020 some form of pilots who told us about 495 00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:12,120 events that they've witnessed and their 496 00:22:19,370 --> 00:22:15,000 airplanes may have captured and 497 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,380 um testing Crews security policemen 498 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:21,840 in all these different places where the 499 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,120 Air Force may have 500 00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:26,400 some kind of audio visual recording of 501 00:22:32,270 --> 00:22:28,740 it or and part of the problem is we're 502 00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:32,280 talking about things that happened 503 00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:33,299 um 504 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,100 obviously long before any of the people 505 00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:37,679 currently serving in the Air Force were 506 00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,100 serving and so and there are a couple of 507 00:22:44,090 --> 00:22:42,960 generations removed and when you go talk 508 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:44,100 to them about 509 00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:47,640 where you know where are the afro-tech 510 00:22:54,169 --> 00:22:50,220 films from the atlas rocket launches in 511 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:54,179 the early 1960s from Vandenberg 512 00:22:58,730 --> 00:22:56,820 I can't find anybody that knows 513 00:23:01,370 --> 00:22:58,740 um and it could have been that they were 514 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,380 disposed of so long ago that it's not 515 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:03,600 even in the corporate memory anymore or 516 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,480 maybe they are stored somewhere 517 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:08,640 um so we're still working on trying to 518 00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:10,200 get answers to a bunch of basic 519 00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:17,029 yeah so you know I tell you you know the 520 00:23:22,510 --> 00:23:18,600 Common Thread that you hear over and 521 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:22,520 over again and you know my sources of 522 00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:25,500 reinforced that this is very true is 523 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:28,919 that the Air Force has has historically 524 00:23:35,870 --> 00:23:32,700 not been cooperative and you know still 525 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:35,880 continue to obfuscate and yeah and I 526 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,760 just I I don't know if I I would say 527 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:40,320 that they have a lot to hide in 528 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:43,620 particular the the long history of 529 00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:46,980 tampering with our land-based strategic 530 00:23:49,789 --> 00:23:48,659 nuclear deterrent 531 00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:49,799 um you know there's 532 00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:52,919 there's a very long history of that and 533 00:23:59,390 --> 00:23:57,179 and most of these guys uh including 534 00:24:00,430 --> 00:23:59,400 um I'm pretty sure Mario was but I know 535 00:24:03,409 --> 00:24:00,440 Salas 536 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:03,419 afosi actually yeah uh Mario Woods it 537 00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:05,039 was the same thing because Richard Doty 538 00:24:12,890 --> 00:24:09,000 was one of the afosi agents uh in the 539 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:12,900 room uh debriefing Mario woods and and 540 00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:15,780 just like Salas they were required to 541 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:18,059 sign a national security non-disclosure 542 00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:19,260 agreement 543 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:22,679 and excuse me I know Robert had said the 544 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:25,260 big thing that stuck out in his mind 545 00:24:31,630 --> 00:24:29,760 was um uh you know was the the part 546 00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:31,640 about Leavenworth on there so it's like 547 00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:34,620 you know and uh yeah that's a that's a 548 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,360 big thing but yeah one of the things I 549 00:24:40,610 --> 00:24:38,220 found that was really interesting is I 550 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,620 want to know about this you too footage 551 00:24:46,850 --> 00:24:43,440 and why was that part of the 552 00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:46,860 conversation now Robert describes his 553 00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:49,620 interview as being around two hours long 554 00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:52,380 of course we only heard a few minutes of 555 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,720 it but yeah I want to know about this 556 00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:56,400 you Youtube footage you know and the 557 00:24:59,930 --> 00:24:58,620 other thing too there is no freaking way 558 00:25:03,890 --> 00:24:59,940 that 559 00:25:06,649 --> 00:25:03,900 footage related to this topic just hit 560 00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:06,659 the shredder I can't imagine that happen 561 00:25:12,649 --> 00:25:08,700 you know I don't know I don't have any 562 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,659 visibility into that but I yeah I just 563 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:15,360 don't don't think that's uh that's uh 564 00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:18,720 that is you know that's that's the case 565 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:20,940 absolutely I mean I was surprised when 566 00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:24,000 he you know openly discussed other cases 567 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:26,100 with with Bob just Freedia either you 568 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:28,980 two and and the other ones I thought you 569 00:25:33,049 --> 00:25:30,539 know that's 570 00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:33,059 and it's not in a skiff it's not a you 571 00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:35,880 know it's right it's strange yeah yeah 572 00:25:39,289 --> 00:25:37,500 so um 573 00:25:42,049 --> 00:25:39,299 uh oh there's a point I was gonna make 574 00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:42,059 I've kind of all this traveling and a 575 00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:45,179 bit not mentally as sharp as I like to 576 00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:46,380 think I am 577 00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:48,659 um but you know one of the you were 578 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:51,000 talking about earlier about the threats 579 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,460 of physical uh violence in intimidation 580 00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:56,159 you know he shared a story where I 581 00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:59,520 believe it was early on when he first 582 00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:01,980 came out he was he had some kind of 583 00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:05,039 presentation at some conference and of 584 00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:06,419 course after his presentation people 585 00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:08,700 were coming up and shaking his hand and 586 00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:10,860 getting photos taken I'm sure that kind 587 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:14,220 of thing and he said uh these two I 588 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,440 think he called them big uglies uh came 589 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:18,960 up to him and shook his hand but when 590 00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:22,320 they shook his hand it was they shook it 591 00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:26,039 with such strength he felt that they 592 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,020 were trying to impart a message there's 593 00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:30,900 two men that were together and uh he 594 00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:33,240 didn't say what they said but but what 595 00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:37,020 he said after he he knew right away that 596 00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:39,720 he was being given a message and when he 597 00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:42,059 left the wherever this place was and he 598 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:44,520 was walking out to his car those two men 599 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,740 were standing together by their car 600 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,200 staring at him as he as he you know as 601 00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:51,600 he got into his his vehicle he said that 602 00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:54,299 was the only that was the only 603 00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:56,059 um 604 00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:00,179 excuse me that was the only kind of 605 00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:03,659 intimidation I think he he uh he you 606 00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:06,419 know he ever ever felt 607 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:09,960 um but um you know another thing that's 608 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,820 the point that I wanted to make 609 00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:14,159 many of all of the whistleblowers that 610 00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:16,140 I've spoken with one of the questions 611 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,380 that they asked Midstream in their 612 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:21,360 interview with arrow was are you 613 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:23,880 recording this call because you know you 614 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,400 think about it for instance Mario Woods 615 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,320 he was on the phone with arrow for I 616 00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:30,480 think was four hours discussing 617 00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:32,520 everything that went that went down and 618 00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:34,860 halfway through the call he said hey are 619 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:37,860 you guys are you guys recording this and 620 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:40,020 and they said no we're just we're taking 621 00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:43,020 notes that is a very common thread with 622 00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:44,820 all of these Arrow interviews so you 623 00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:46,679 have to sit and ask yourself if these 624 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:48,360 guys are taking sort of witness 625 00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:50,220 testimony 626 00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:52,200 um or whistleblower whatever you want to 627 00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:54,299 refer to him as but uh or taking any 628 00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:56,039 sort of historical record and they're 629 00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,120 just writing stuff down to me that begs 630 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:02,279 to question how much are they writing 631 00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:05,940 down to what level of detail uh because 632 00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:08,100 I listen to these guys speak and recount 633 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,720 their stories there's a lot of 634 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,000 information packed in there so then the 635 00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:15,200 question you have to ask is 636 00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:18,360 what then is Arrow passing up the chain 637 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,980 of if you want to call it chain of 638 00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:21,960 command passing up the Congress and with 639 00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:23,700 what level of 640 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:26,820 um detail about these particular uh 641 00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:29,400 testimonies um you know there there have 642 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:31,679 been people that 643 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,340 um 644 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,559 uh Whistler again whatever term you want 645 00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:36,720 to use that have testified to Arrow 646 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:39,779 about about Legacy crash retrieval 647 00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:44,159 programs to a great level of detail and 648 00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:46,980 you know the one thing I have had no 649 00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:50,700 visibility visibility into is how much 650 00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:54,179 is being shared with with Congress it 651 00:29:01,789 --> 00:28:57,419 just to me it's odd if you're gonna go 652 00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:01,799 to the effort of getting these people on 653 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:06,059 the phone uh or in person in particular 654 00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:08,700 in this case getting whistleblowers on 655 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,659 the phone 656 00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:11,520 and there's you don't have like a court 657 00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:14,700 reporter uh transcribing it and they're 658 00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:16,980 just taking notes I I don't understand 659 00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:21,059 that yeah that's strange isn't it 660 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:24,120 doesn't give a lot of confidence in what 661 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:25,500 they're actually doing really does it 662 00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:28,980 well and and I I would say with the 663 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:30,419 whistleblowers that I've spoken with 664 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:32,460 there is 665 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:35,940 by and large there has not been 666 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:39,240 um and I think a lot of this was was uh 667 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:42,559 tied to uh the the the 668 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:45,419 hearing with Senator gillibrand they're 669 00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:47,880 just there isn't a lot of confidence in 670 00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:51,120 the process there is a lot of uh 671 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:54,059 questioning I think on their part 672 00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:55,440 by 673 00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:57,419 you know what Kirkpatrick's motivations 674 00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:00,779 are or if he's being his hands are being 675 00:30:06,769 --> 00:30:03,600 tied behind his back because of it being 676 00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:06,779 under moultrie's purview but it just in 677 00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:09,960 general it's it has had a net it has had 678 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:13,620 a detrimental effect on these veterans 679 00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:17,820 or or people involved with these Legacy 680 00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:19,320 programs 681 00:30:23,149 --> 00:30:20,760 um 682 00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:23,159 it just I don't think it's been good 683 00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:25,620 yeah and things seem to have died down a 684 00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:27,299 little bit at the moment as well you 685 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,340 know I don't know if that's a general 686 00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:31,200 feeling but certainly for me it feels 687 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:33,000 that way but then the one thing that we 688 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:34,080 did get was that you know obviously 689 00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,260 we've got the NASA live uh event coming 690 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,080 up on the 31st of May which um I am just 691 00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:41,279 going to share my screen because I just 692 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:43,500 wanted to quickly share the uh the 693 00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,820 schedule because it's been announced 694 00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:47,039 that that Dr Kirkpatrick is going to 695 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:49,740 present there which yes I think was a 696 00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:51,659 bit of a surprise so let's 697 00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:53,940 let's bring that up so yeah here we are 698 00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:57,299 so four hour live event uh which will be 699 00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:58,919 certainly be interesting so we've got 700 00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:01,679 the full excuse me full breakdown here 701 00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:04,200 and there we are 11 till 11 30. so only 702 00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,940 30 minutes uh 703 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:08,159 you know Dr Kirkpatrick talking about 704 00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:10,260 Arrow but I think 705 00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:13,320 that's good it is it is it is you know 706 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:14,940 there's a few other standout bits here 707 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,520 that the FAA are going to be discussing 708 00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:19,919 something or other 709 00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:21,720 um but one this this keeps getting me 710 00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:25,080 this uapist whatever what is that yeah I 711 00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:27,179 have no idea is that like the new the 712 00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:29,520 new version of the ufologist or what's 713 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:31,460 uh yeah 714 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:34,380 well B yeah cause we've got here uaps 715 00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:36,779 panelists presentations and discussions 716 00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:40,200 yeah so yeah I mean it's certainly 717 00:31:45,289 --> 00:31:42,600 good that we're getting a public access 718 00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:45,299 to a four-hour event covering what you 719 00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:46,679 know what they've been up to and what 720 00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:49,080 they may consider doing further down the 721 00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:51,659 line so that's certainly going to be you 722 00:31:56,029 --> 00:31:53,940 know interesting I find any any further 723 00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,039 thoughts on that one from you yeah I you 724 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,840 know I'm really excited about this and 725 00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:00,240 and I think I mean I I've been very 726 00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:01,799 skeptical of Kirkpatrick from the 727 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,279 beginning and um I've not understood why 728 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:07,440 there's been no you know front-facing 729 00:32:15,070 --> 00:32:10,940 mechanism you know no uh uh 730 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,080 easily accessible way of contacting them 731 00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:17,279 now in the interview with Senator 732 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:20,340 gillibrand she said if people were not 733 00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:23,820 interested in or didn't want to go 734 00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:26,340 directly to Arrow she gave an email 735 00:32:33,889 --> 00:32:28,740 address to her office at whistleblowers 736 00:32:38,269 --> 00:32:33,899 can go directly to her office and I've 737 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,279 referred quite a few uh to a separate 738 00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:41,760 channel into her her office as well 739 00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:44,820 um but yeah you know 740 00:32:48,409 --> 00:32:46,500 you just you never do know you know when 741 00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:48,419 I watched the the Kirkpatrick thing one 742 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,520 of the one of the you know the things 743 00:32:55,130 --> 00:32:52,740 that I think kind of stood out to me was 744 00:33:00,529 --> 00:32:55,140 that it felt like 745 00:33:03,970 --> 00:33:00,539 he was having having to that being under 746 00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:03,980 ousdi and S was maybe hampering things 747 00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:06,840 budgetarily and and 748 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:08,700 um the fact that there still wasn't a 749 00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,380 website which is you know blows me away 750 00:33:15,289 --> 00:33:12,240 but on the other side you know you look 751 00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:15,299 at I think um I forgot what his SCS 752 00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:17,340 number is but you know Kirkpatrick is 753 00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,100 like essentially the civilian equivalent 754 00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:22,799 of say like a two-star general so 755 00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:25,700 if if I were the director of a program 756 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,440 who's one of the main goals is to 757 00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:31,200 collect data from various people in the 758 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:33,720 military either directly or either 759 00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:34,980 through direct reporting or indirect 760 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,600 reporting that'd be the first thing I 761 00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:40,080 would do is put up uh you know how to 762 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:41,700 get get a hold of him and get a hold of 763 00:33:45,049 --> 00:33:44,220 them through uh through jwix or or some 764 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:45,059 other 765 00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,360 um thing so I I just have not understood 766 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:51,120 why that has not occurred 767 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,500 um I understand from what he said that 768 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,480 it's in the works but 769 00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:57,360 you know uh but yeah I do think yeah so 770 00:34:01,730 --> 00:33:58,440 sorry 771 00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,740 um it's my add in full effect yeah I 772 00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:03,360 think the NASA thing is I think it's 773 00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,899 great and hopefully Dr Kirkpatrick has 774 00:34:12,589 --> 00:34:09,119 um some good stuff to share I I hope so 775 00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:12,599 it'd be a great way to kind of uh uh 776 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,000 turn the the tie to public opinion 777 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:17,040 um if he you know really came to the 778 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,020 conference with with some good 779 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,599 information and I I certainly hope he uh 780 00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:24,240 you know he does to whatever extent he's 781 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:26,820 allowed but um 782 00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,000 you know with this the thing the thing I 783 00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:31,800 think to kind of keep in mind too is 784 00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:34,320 like all of the excuse me 785 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:36,780 all of us have been tracking this topic 786 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,260 in in everyone in your most people I 787 00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,720 would say in your audience and and to a 788 00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:45,060 lesser degree probably in my audience 789 00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:46,980 because it's a lot of political 790 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:48,419 followers 791 00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:50,040 um but you have to keep in mind that 792 00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:52,080 there there are a lot of people that 793 00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:53,940 just don't know a whole lot about this 794 00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:55,379 other than what they've seen in movies 795 00:35:05,630 --> 00:34:57,720 or or 796 00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:05,640 whatever so I think that it is a a 797 00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:09,240 process to acclimate the public to it 798 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:13,260 um to legitimize uh Congressional 799 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:16,260 efforts or programs so to ensure for 800 00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:18,420 instance that that Arrow has the proper 801 00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:21,540 funding so part of that and I think 802 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,680 that's a challenge for Senator 803 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:25,440 gillibrand and these others is is 804 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:26,460 um 805 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:28,260 people in Congress 806 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:30,660 that maybe don't track this topic or 807 00:35:34,910 --> 00:35:32,760 know very little about it 808 00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:34,920 you gotta sort of 809 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:37,079 ease him into it I think to a certain 810 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:38,460 extent 811 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:39,780 so 812 00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:45,119 this press thing with NASA I mean I 813 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:46,079 don't think they're going to be rolling 814 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:49,920 out any uh biological entities or uh or 815 00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:51,960 going outside for a big Flying Saucer 816 00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:54,780 reveal uh but it the fact that it's 817 00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:58,500 being treated with seriousness is I 818 00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,180 think is I think is really significant 819 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,880 and you know we all know there are there 820 00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:05,520 are encounters that they could be flares 821 00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:07,320 or or 822 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:09,839 um uh or drones you know there are 823 00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,420 certainly things that have prosaic 824 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:14,640 explanations 825 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:16,980 um you know balloons any sort you know 826 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:19,320 various surveillance collection 827 00:36:25,730 --> 00:36:23,640 platforms but when you when you you know 828 00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:25,740 so you'll have people like Mick West and 829 00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:27,540 some of these other 830 00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:30,660 um professional debunkers uh you know 831 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:32,040 saying you know oh it's it's all just 832 00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:35,940 balloons or seagulls or or or whatever 833 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:36,839 um 834 00:36:41,089 --> 00:36:38,940 and certainly there are occasions where 835 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,099 there is there are prosaic explanations 836 00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:43,680 for it but you have to sit and ask 837 00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:46,020 yourself the question would NASA be 838 00:36:50,089 --> 00:36:49,140 doing this this length of of 839 00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:50,099 um 840 00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:54,119 a discussion to only talk about Airborne 841 00:36:58,609 --> 00:36:57,180 trash or Airborne clutter or balloons or 842 00:36:59,569 --> 00:36:58,619 or 843 00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,579 um 844 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,240 or you know 845 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:04,800 Senators on both sides of the aisle and 846 00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,160 I'm I'm a raging liberal but I I am 847 00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:10,980 always happy to promote and acknowledge 848 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:13,079 good work that Republicans are doing on 849 00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:14,940 this as well this particular topic it 850 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:17,880 transcends transcends party 851 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:21,060 the fact that what was a 32-33 pages of 852 00:37:26,089 --> 00:37:23,460 legislation regarding the UAP went into 853 00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:26,099 National Defense authorization act it 854 00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:28,440 completely blows out of the water 855 00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:31,859 um like Mick West's argument about it 856 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:33,300 um or you know are any of these 857 00:37:38,569 --> 00:37:36,540 professional debunkers so you just you 858 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:38,579 have and and the other thing is what I 859 00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:39,720 want to point out you know Senator 860 00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:42,300 gillibrand Senator Rubio you have to 861 00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,220 read in between the lines about what 862 00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:47,460 with what they're saying listen to if 863 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,380 they're having if they're talking to the 864 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:52,079 press for a three-minute sound by or 865 00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,280 three minute 866 00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:55,920 um thing listen to the very last thing 867 00:38:00,349 --> 00:37:58,619 that Senator Rubio might say and you 868 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:00,359 just you have to do a lot of reading 869 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:03,000 between the lines yeah yeah 870 00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:04,680 um I got a shout out to everyone in the 871 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,599 chat here so uapist is actually just 872 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:08,160 unidentified aerial phenomena 873 00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,980 independent study team which okay I 874 00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:13,020 don't know why I didn't see that but I 875 00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:14,520 could always count on these guys so 876 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:16,440 thank you everyone there uh I'm just 877 00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,640 good I just want to highlight a couple 878 00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,859 of um donations that have come in so 879 00:38:23,329 --> 00:38:21,839 uplifting tweets thank you so much and 880 00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:23,339 he says just thanks for all that you two 881 00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:25,320 do so yeah Matt I know you've been 882 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:27,240 accused of being uplifting tweets so 883 00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:29,400 yeah yeah well I mean so that's if it 884 00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:31,380 looked like I was typing that was me 885 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:34,740 actually uh uh sending you the donation 886 00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:38,460 and um uh so uh yeah you know I am 887 00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:41,099 uplifting tweets and uh you know I do 888 00:38:48,589 --> 00:38:44,940 hey I'm a I'm a podcast uh host uh Slash 889 00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:48,599 uh maker of really great graphics so um 890 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:51,480 yeah so uh I you're welcome for that ten 891 00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,320 dollars 892 00:38:56,089 --> 00:38:54,420 no that's that's hilarious but I've 893 00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:56,099 literally uplifted tweets thank you so 894 00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:58,380 much man and then uh also I want to 895 00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,540 shout out Robbie Delaney and he asks uh 896 00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:02,160 do you feel that arrow is nothing more 897 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,380 than a modern day Project Blue Book with 898 00:39:09,650 --> 00:39:07,440 a predetermined agenda I don't know I 899 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:09,660 sir I certainly hope not 900 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:13,079 um I would say 901 00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:15,540 I would say that there is a significant 902 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:18,599 Congressional Awareness on this topic uh 903 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,060 awareness that 904 00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:23,520 um there's a non-prosaic significant 905 00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,980 National Security 906 00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:28,560 issue to be looking into all of this 907 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:32,940 um so I would with that in mind I I am 908 00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:34,740 skeptical that it will go down that 909 00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:38,400 route but you know Never Say Never the 910 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:41,339 the thing to keep in mind is this whole 911 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:43,500 thing it is it's always a fluid 912 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:45,720 situation so you know for a period of 913 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,160 time you're hearing from your sources 914 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:49,440 hey something is about to happen or 915 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:52,320 around the corner and then you know that 916 00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,320 timeline might shift it's it's you're 917 00:40:01,010 --> 00:39:57,839 moving at the speed of government uh 918 00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:01,020 geopolitical things occur 919 00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:03,780 um it's it's it's hard to predict I do 920 00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:06,300 feel confident that by the end of summer 921 00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:07,859 or the end of the year I think it'll be 922 00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:09,240 a different we'll be having a different 923 00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:11,940 conversation but nothing is ever set in 924 00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:14,099 style yeah and do you think between now 925 00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:15,720 and this summer we'll have any more 926 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:18,359 hearings because there was talk a few 927 00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:20,220 weeks ago that we were going to get some 928 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:22,400 in June with them 929 00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:25,920 you know potential people speaking 930 00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:27,420 publicly you know 931 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,980 um again I don't want to use the term 932 00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,480 whistleblowers but people maybe even 933 00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:33,119 getting subpoenaed and anything on that 934 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:35,700 that you've heard I you know I have not 935 00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:38,040 you know I I know no more about that 936 00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:40,380 than I think what everyone else has seen 937 00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:43,020 now I want to bring up an important 938 00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:44,099 Point 939 00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:47,760 um you know to my fellow citizens you 940 00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,099 know everybody 941 00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:53,280 it is it it's you don't have to be a 942 00:40:58,130 --> 00:40:56,220 rocket scientist to find out find the 943 00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:58,140 numbers of these committees find the 944 00:41:01,609 --> 00:41:00,420 numbers of these uh congressmen and 945 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:01,619 senators 946 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:03,720 and you know call them up especially 947 00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:06,480 people that are that your Senator or 948 00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:09,300 your Congress men or women 949 00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,160 when you know when you call from your 950 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:13,680 District that carries so much weight and 951 00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:16,020 and talk to these staffers and say this 952 00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:17,940 this is an important 953 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:22,200 subject it is it is 954 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:26,820 it is wrong on so many levels for 955 00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:29,760 unelected 956 00:41:35,870 --> 00:41:33,000 people to be controlling this 957 00:41:39,050 --> 00:41:35,880 um that's not a democracy that's not the 958 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,060 way uh any democracy should work and 959 00:41:42,109 --> 00:41:41,280 it's not their place 960 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:42,119 um 961 00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:47,040 to have control over this thing I mean I 962 00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:49,140 totally understand their elements 963 00:41:54,589 --> 00:41:50,820 um I would say probably with historical 964 00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:54,599 crash retrieval programs and and uh you 965 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,339 know let's say that we do have off-world 966 00:42:00,170 --> 00:41:58,079 vehicles there are going to be certain 967 00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:00,180 elements of that that that for National 968 00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:02,220 Security should remain classified 969 00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:06,780 indefinitely but but what I would say is 970 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:11,400 that the the the the people that I speak 971 00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:12,240 with 972 00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,720 and it's multiple people in in the 973 00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:18,000 intelligence community and in in defense 974 00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:21,300 they are all of the opinion that there 975 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,420 is nothing that that just telling people 976 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,400 that we are being interacted with by 977 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,560 non-human intelligence that is not going 978 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:30,480 to jeopardize National Security and 979 00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:32,700 there's no reason not to level with the 980 00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:35,400 public about that yeah yeah 981 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:37,619 um got a great question Diego Thank you 982 00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:39,660 so much for the kind donation and he 983 00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,640 asks why he says much love from uh 984 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:43,440 Albuquerque has there been any talks 985 00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,839 about the historical side of Arrow's 986 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:47,839 Mission dating back to 45 987 00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,560 and UFO HRC would be the ideal partner 988 00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,859 I I don't know who uh and you uh the 989 00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:57,839 long acronym and the bottom is but I 990 00:43:02,990 --> 00:42:59,220 haven't heard anything 991 00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:03,000 um at all now I do know that what has 992 00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:06,920 been stated is that is that um uh 993 00:43:10,970 --> 00:43:09,540 Kirkpatrick they only had title 10 994 00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:10,980 Authority they don't have title 50 995 00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:13,980 Authority which is what Lou had 996 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:17,460 um so it is probably not probably I'm 997 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:21,599 sure it's restricted uh his access 998 00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,720 um you know there was uh as valdo posted 999 00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:27,839 this this great video uh a while back of 1000 00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:31,800 him uh talking to Senator gillibrand and 1001 00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:34,920 and not confronting him confronting Iran 1002 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,900 and I you know his intentions were good 1003 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:39,359 obviously but you know she she said that 1004 00:43:44,569 --> 00:43:42,720 he has had problems getting access to 1005 00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:44,579 historical information 1006 00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,160 and I there's no reason to doubt that 1007 00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:49,200 because that's how they've operated in 1008 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,540 the past for you know for decades that's 1009 00:43:55,130 --> 00:43:53,760 not a surprise at all so I haven't heard 1010 00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,140 anything 1011 00:44:01,130 --> 00:43:57,599 um from any of my sources about it so 1012 00:44:02,750 --> 00:44:01,140 yeah I don't know yeah hopefully you 1013 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,760 know we do hear something about that in 1014 00:44:06,349 --> 00:44:04,319 the future because you know it's 1015 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,359 something that we've all wanted for such 1016 00:44:10,490 --> 00:44:07,920 a long time we're in the last few years 1017 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,500 considering everything's just been 2004 1018 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,720 onwards and we really do want them to go 1019 00:44:18,109 --> 00:44:14,640 back to some of these compelling 1020 00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:18,119 cases that are you know are quite old so 1021 00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:19,700 um 1022 00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:21,960 yeah there's a lot yeah sorry no yeah 1023 00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:24,900 now there's there's a lot to to I would 1024 00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:32,210 people involved in historical crash 1025 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:34,619 retrieval programs have testified to 1026 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:37,380 Arrow under oath 1027 00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:41,760 and so you know what else do you want to 1028 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,540 know you know uh and and I just I hope 1029 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:47,520 that 1030 00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:55,440 uh on any of these intelligence or uh 1031 00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,660 Appropriations committees or armed 1032 00:45:03,890 --> 00:44:59,760 services committees that they are being 1033 00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:03,900 given they are being told uh what what 1034 00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:05,579 they are what arrow is hearing from 1035 00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:07,260 these people I 1036 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,540 can't you know people like Senator 1037 00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:11,520 gillibrand she suffers no fool she is 1038 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:14,280 one smart lady and she 1039 00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:18,480 um you know uh you know she's amazing so 1040 00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:21,900 I I'm skeptical that that they are not 1041 00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:23,880 hearing stuff but you just don't know to 1042 00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:26,280 what extent and if they're just sitting 1043 00:45:30,349 --> 00:45:28,260 there taking notes on a notepad how much 1044 00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:30,359 detail are they writing down and then 1045 00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:32,280 how what is that report that they're 1046 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,380 putting together and sending up uh 1047 00:45:38,329 --> 00:45:36,000 sending up to Congress 1048 00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:38,339 yeah hopefully we do get some clarity on 1049 00:45:42,770 --> 00:45:40,200 that at some point in the future yeah 1050 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,780 yeah for sure well listen Matt thank you 1051 00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:44,640 so much I'm conscious of the time before 1052 00:45:48,730 --> 00:45:46,380 Before I Let You Go please let us know 1053 00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:48,740 about anything that you've got coming up 1054 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:52,079 uh actually I don't 1055 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:53,640 um I wish I did 1056 00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:56,280 um so you'll you'll be the uh the first 1057 00:46:01,069 --> 00:45:58,020 uh first to hear about it I'm I've 1058 00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:01,079 worked as as uh it got me a little busy 1059 00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:04,380 in the day job and um and I'm you know 1060 00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:08,579 uh uh doing uh some traveling right now 1061 00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:11,099 um uh from various undisclosed locations 1062 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,700 I'm just joking by the way uh uh so you 1063 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:16,800 know visiting family that sort of thing 1064 00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,220 um yeah uh so uh yeah so I'll I would 1065 00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:23,040 say in in June hopefully we'll have some 1066 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:25,619 uh great interviews uh coming up uh 1067 00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:28,800 we're always working uh on them uh and 1068 00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,180 you know these things these things take 1069 00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:32,579 time obviously but my hope is 1070 00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,440 um you know probably our next big 1071 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,260 episode will be after this NASA hearing 1072 00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,119 so or whatever you want to call that 1073 00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:41,400 thing so let's hope uh let's hope some 1074 00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:42,839 good things come out of that and and 1075 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:45,000 that we all have lots of good things to 1076 00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:47,160 talk about yeah couldn't agree more it's 1077 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,480 certainly going to be a lot of eyes on 1078 00:46:52,670 --> 00:46:50,400 that on that yeah on that day on that 1079 00:46:54,410 --> 00:46:52,680 event so for everybody who's here 1080 00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,420 watching live thank you so much and 1081 00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,460 everybody that's listening early or 1082 00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:58,319 watching at a later date if you'd go 1083 00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:59,940 down into the description you can go and 1084 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:01,800 find all of Matt's links if you're not 1085 00:47:05,890 --> 00:47:03,480 already following him 1086 00:47:11,650 --> 00:47:05,900 um again thank you 1087 00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:14,630 Melissa Matt thank you again so much and 1088 00:47:19,609 --> 00:47:17,579 uh I really appreciate you uh you know 1089 00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:19,619 you're very welcome time for us and uh 1090 00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:22,140 yeah guys we'll see you on the next one 1091 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:24,900 thanks call your call your Senators call